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==== Meeting Notes ====
 
This meeting ended up being more about our own re-branding needs, and the business of running KWNPSA as a non-profit organization.  We'll have another session  in the future on '''Branding''' to discuss the experience and gather the advice of other organizations.
 
This meeting ended up being more about our own re-branding needs, and the business of running KWNPSA as a non-profit organization.  We'll have another session  in the future on '''Branding''' to discuss the experience and gather the advice of other organizations.
  
 
* We started with a discussion on the different syntaxes used in markup languages, eg. Markdown, Mediawiki, PMWiki, MoinMoin...
 
* We started with a discussion on the different syntaxes used in markup languages, eg. Markdown, Mediawiki, PMWiki, MoinMoin...
  
=== Hosting Services ===
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===== Hosting Services =====
 
* Many Non-Profit organizations are migrating from CCj/Clearline (Steph Smith, Cedric Puddy) to IndieServe (Mark Steffen)
 
* Many Non-Profit organizations are migrating from CCj/Clearline (Steph Smith, Cedric Puddy) to IndieServe (Mark Steffen)
 
* Marc Paré will take over the hosting for KWNPSA
 
* Marc Paré will take over the hosting for KWNPSA
** Marc is currently using Easy
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** Marc is currently using 123EHost.com
** Mailing Lists
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** This is for the interim, until Marc has his own server set up
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** The hosting OS will be Mageia
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* Mailing Lists
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** Steve Izma will be the Mailing List Manager
 
** We currently have our [http://thinkers.org/mailman/listinfo/npsa_thinkers.org Discussion] and [http://thinkers.org/mailman/listinfo/npsa-ann_thinkers.org Announcements] mailing lists on CCj/Clearline
 
** We currently have our [http://thinkers.org/mailman/listinfo/npsa_thinkers.org Discussion] and [http://thinkers.org/mailman/listinfo/npsa-ann_thinkers.org Announcements] mailing lists on CCj/Clearline
** Wiki
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** Steve will look after the mailing list migrations as soon as Marc has Mailman set up
*** Mediawiki is being used by everyone at this meeting
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* Wiki
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** Mediawiki is being used by everyone at this meeting,
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** Currently being hosted at http://sobac.com/kwnpsa by Bob Jonkman
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** Will be migrated after Marc has set up the Mageia server
  
=== Sponsorships ===
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===== Sponsorships =====
 
* CIRA - Has provided $100 for the previous and this meeting.
 
* CIRA - Has provided $100 for the previous and this meeting.
* TechSoup (?) - NetSquared is an umbrella group for Non-Profit organizations' IT staff
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* TechSoup - provides low-cost Microsoft licenses to Non-Profit organizations
* Microsoft
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** NetSquared (part of TechSoup) is an umbrella group for Non-Profit organizations' IT staff
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*** If we get a venue without A/V facilities, can NetSquared sponsorship provide, say, a projector? Marc to ask Eli...
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* Microsoft
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** We will gladly accept Microsoft sponsorhip and host an evening dedicated to Microsoft products
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*** Perhaps have as a guest speaker a product specialist from Microsoft?
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** We will continue to focus  on Free Software / Open Source solutions at other meetings
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* Google
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** Apparently Google is a sponsor or a member of NetSquared
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*** but we have not seen support from our local Google office, eg. request for a venue
  
=== Formalizing the KWNPSA group ===
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===== Formalizing the KWNPSA group =====
 
* The formal structure of the group will consist only of a Treasurer
 
* The formal structure of the group will consist only of a Treasurer
** Marc Paré will be Treasurer, will take care of all finances
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** Marc Paré will be Treasurer, will take care of any finances received from sponsors, donations, &c.
 
** Funds received from sponsorships &c. will be used for venues, hosting costs, domain name costs.
 
** Funds received from sponsorships &c. will be used for venues, hosting costs, domain name costs.
* Bob Jonkman will ask Eli van Giessen to re-brand the meetup.com group as '''KWNPSA - Kitchener Waterloo Non-Profit System Administrators -- a NetSquared Group'''
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* Bob Jonkman will ask Eli van Giessen to re-brand the [http://www.meetup.com/NetSquared-Kitchener-Waterloo/ meetup.com group] as '''KWNPSA - Kitchener Waterloo Non-Profit System Administrators -- a NetSquared Group'''
* Marc Paré will look after any finances received from sponsors
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===== Marketing KWNPSA =====
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* Business cards?
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** We need someone to design a KWNPSA logo
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*** The ''KW'' part is important to our geographic locale; highlight or separate KW from NPSA
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** Marc Paré has found with other organizations that business cards are just as effective as posters
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* Let more people know that KWNPSA exists
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** Marc has a list of local KW Non-Profit organizations [https://www.canadahelps.org/en/search/app/?medium=TSA&models=charity.charityprofile&q=Waterloo&gclid=CjwKEAjwkq7GBRDun9iu2JjyhmsSJADHCD_Hp06S32fZF1kA_tKMjaZlcHtSe_D4S_SP8LJUJlrN2RoCeS3w_wcB/ List] he has contacted about 100
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===== Meeting format =====
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* KWNPSA has a collegial Round Table Discussion format, which suits Non-Profit organizations
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** Contrast this with formal presentations at [http://kwlug.org/ KWLUG]
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** or the social restaurant meetings of [http://kwvoip.ca/ KWVoIP]
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===== Mailing Lists =====
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* How do we deal with badly configured MUAs (Mail clients) that try to reply to the Announcements list?
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* Do we need two separate lists?
 +
** Steve Izma will investigate the use of "child lists" in Mailman
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** "Child lists" will allow "Discussion" to receive "Announcements" so people only have to subscribe to one list
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* DMARC problems
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** Steve will activate "munging" on Mailman so badly configured mail hosts like Yahoo Mail will accept messages
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* We will have KWNPSA branded e-mail addresses
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** To be seen if this helps or hinders the DMARC problem
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** Lends authority to Announcements; requests for venues, &c.
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*** Marc Paré [mailto:marc.pare@kwnpsa.ca marc.pare@kwnpsa.ca]
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*** Steve Izma [mailto:sizma@kwnpsa.ca sizma@kwnpsa.ca]
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*** Bob Jonkman [mailto:bobjonkman@kwnpsa.ca bobjonkman@kwnpsa.ca]
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** Available to anyone who helps organize the group
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===== Wiki =====
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* Meetup.com is [https://www.meetup.com/boards/thread/32693362 closing its Discussion Forums] where we used to publish Meeting Notes
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** Paul Nijjar has a .gzip file of all meeting notes
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** Bob Jonkman will upload these to the Wiki (they're in the Public Folder as [http://sobac.com/owncloud/s/CQr2YmVw6VZ91We/download?path=/&files=npsa.tar.bz2  npsa.tar.bz2])
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*** Public folder (RO): http://sobac.com/owncloud/s/CQr2YmVw6VZ91We
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*** Upload folder (R/W): http://sobac.com/owncloud/s/35Gyy6yTOG5Ak9z (contact [mailto:bobjonkman@kwnpsa.ca Bob Jonkman] for the password)
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** Steve Izma will write a script to convert these from Markdown into Mediawiki syntax and upload them
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* Bob has been testing different data structures on the Wiki, eg. transclusions for meeting announcements, sub-folders for meeting notes.
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===== Branding =====
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* Description of group: '''Resource Group for Information Technology in Non-Profit Organizations'''
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** Similar to a Mission Statement, if not identical
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** Also the Vision -- use one phrase for all
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** We will refine this description on the Discussion List with other members
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* Are we '''KWNPSA''' or '''KW-NPSA'''?
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** It's a non-issue, we'll spell it out in full on posters and whenever we make announcements
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** Let's see what the Business Card designer does
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===== Venue =====
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* Marc Paré will pursue Communitech and the Downtown Community Centre for "venue sponsorship"
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* A venue at Google may not be possible (high security facility)
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Meeting notes taken by Bob Jonkman.
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[[Category:NPSA]]
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[[Category:KWNPSA Meeting Notes]]

Latest revision as of 19:11, 12 October 2017

Branding

Date
Monday, 13 March 2017
Event Announcement
https://www.meetup.com/NetSquared-Kitchener-Waterloo/events/237778855/
Location
Steve Izma's house, 35 Locust Street, Kitchener, Ontario Map

What's your brand? Do you have a brand? How do you choose a brand? Is branding important for NonProfit organizations? What is the value of a good brand? What is the cost of a bad brand? Have you ever changed your branding? How much work was it for the SysAdmins? Did you have re-do the Web site? The e-mail addresses? Business cards? Letterhead? What legal considerations are there for choosing a brand?

Bob and Marc have the questions, together all of us have the answers.

See you at the meeting!

--Bob and Marc



Meeting Notes

This meeting ended up being more about our own re-branding needs, and the business of running KWNPSA as a non-profit organization. We'll have another session in the future on Branding to discuss the experience and gather the advice of other organizations.

  • We started with a discussion on the different syntaxes used in markup languages, eg. Markdown, Mediawiki, PMWiki, MoinMoin...
Hosting Services
  • Many Non-Profit organizations are migrating from CCj/Clearline (Steph Smith, Cedric Puddy) to IndieServe (Mark Steffen)
  • Marc Paré will take over the hosting for KWNPSA
    • Marc is currently using 123EHost.com
    • This is for the interim, until Marc has his own server set up
    • The hosting OS will be Mageia
  • Mailing Lists
    • Steve Izma will be the Mailing List Manager
    • We currently have our Discussion and Announcements mailing lists on CCj/Clearline
    • Steve will look after the mailing list migrations as soon as Marc has Mailman set up
  • Wiki
    • Mediawiki is being used by everyone at this meeting,
    • Currently being hosted at http://sobac.com/kwnpsa by Bob Jonkman
    • Will be migrated after Marc has set up the Mageia server
Sponsorships
  • CIRA - Has provided $100 for the previous and this meeting.
  • TechSoup - provides low-cost Microsoft licenses to Non-Profit organizations
    • NetSquared (part of TechSoup) is an umbrella group for Non-Profit organizations' IT staff
      • If we get a venue without A/V facilities, can NetSquared sponsorship provide, say, a projector? Marc to ask Eli...
  • Microsoft
    • We will gladly accept Microsoft sponsorhip and host an evening dedicated to Microsoft products
      • Perhaps have as a guest speaker a product specialist from Microsoft?
    • We will continue to focus on Free Software / Open Source solutions at other meetings
  • Google
    • Apparently Google is a sponsor or a member of NetSquared
      • but we have not seen support from our local Google office, eg. request for a venue
Formalizing the KWNPSA group
  • The formal structure of the group will consist only of a Treasurer
    • Marc Paré will be Treasurer, will take care of any finances received from sponsors, donations, &c.
    • Funds received from sponsorships &c. will be used for venues, hosting costs, domain name costs.
  • Bob Jonkman will ask Eli van Giessen to re-brand the meetup.com group as KWNPSA - Kitchener Waterloo Non-Profit System Administrators -- a NetSquared Group
Marketing KWNPSA
  • Business cards?
    • We need someone to design a KWNPSA logo
      • The KW part is important to our geographic locale; highlight or separate KW from NPSA
    • Marc Paré has found with other organizations that business cards are just as effective as posters
  • Let more people know that KWNPSA exists
    • Marc has a list of local KW Non-Profit organizations List he has contacted about 100
Meeting format
  • KWNPSA has a collegial Round Table Discussion format, which suits Non-Profit organizations
    • Contrast this with formal presentations at KWLUG
    • or the social restaurant meetings of KWVoIP
Mailing Lists
  • How do we deal with badly configured MUAs (Mail clients) that try to reply to the Announcements list?
  • Do we need two separate lists?
    • Steve Izma will investigate the use of "child lists" in Mailman
    • "Child lists" will allow "Discussion" to receive "Announcements" so people only have to subscribe to one list
  • DMARC problems
    • Steve will activate "munging" on Mailman so badly configured mail hosts like Yahoo Mail will accept messages
  • We will have KWNPSA branded e-mail addresses
Wiki
Branding
  • Description of group: Resource Group for Information Technology in Non-Profit Organizations
    • Similar to a Mission Statement, if not identical
    • Also the Vision -- use one phrase for all
    • We will refine this description on the Discussion List with other members
  • Are we KWNPSA or KW-NPSA?
    • It's a non-issue, we'll spell it out in full on posters and whenever we make announcements
    • Let's see what the Business Card designer does
Venue
  • Marc Paré will pursue Communitech and the Downtown Community Centre for "venue sponsorship"
  • A venue at Google may not be possible (high security facility)


Meeting notes taken by Bob Jonkman.