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This meeting ended up being more about our own re-branding needs, and the business of running KWNPSA as a non-profit organization. We'll have another session in the future on '''Branding''' to discuss the experience and gather the advice of other organizations. | This meeting ended up being more about our own re-branding needs, and the business of running KWNPSA as a non-profit organization. We'll have another session in the future on '''Branding''' to discuss the experience and gather the advice of other organizations. | ||
* We started with a discussion on the different syntaxes used in markup languages, eg. Markdown, Mediawiki, PMWiki, MoinMoin... | * We started with a discussion on the different syntaxes used in markup languages, eg. Markdown, Mediawiki, PMWiki, MoinMoin... | ||
− | === Hosting Services === | + | ===== Hosting Services ===== |
* Many Non-Profit organizations are migrating from CCj/Clearline (Steph Smith, Cedric Puddy) to IndieServe (Mark Steffen) | * Many Non-Profit organizations are migrating from CCj/Clearline (Steph Smith, Cedric Puddy) to IndieServe (Mark Steffen) | ||
* Marc Paré will take over the hosting for KWNPSA | * Marc Paré will take over the hosting for KWNPSA | ||
− | ** Marc is currently using | + | ** Marc is currently using 123EHost.com |
− | ** Mailing Lists | + | ** This is for the interim, until Marc has his own server set up |
+ | ** The hosting OS will be Mageia | ||
+ | * Mailing Lists | ||
+ | ** Steve Izma will be the Mailing List Manager | ||
** We currently have our [http://thinkers.org/mailman/listinfo/npsa_thinkers.org Discussion] and [http://thinkers.org/mailman/listinfo/npsa-ann_thinkers.org Announcements] mailing lists on CCj/Clearline | ** We currently have our [http://thinkers.org/mailman/listinfo/npsa_thinkers.org Discussion] and [http://thinkers.org/mailman/listinfo/npsa-ann_thinkers.org Announcements] mailing lists on CCj/Clearline | ||
− | ** Wiki | + | ** Steve will look after the mailing list migrations as soon as Marc has Mailman set up |
− | + | * Wiki | |
+ | ** Mediawiki is being used by everyone at this meeting, | ||
+ | ** Currently being hosted at http://sobac.com/kwnpsa by Bob Jonkman | ||
+ | ** Will be migrated after Marc has set up the Mageia server | ||
− | === Sponsorships === | + | ===== Sponsorships ===== |
* CIRA - Has provided $100 for the previous and this meeting. | * CIRA - Has provided $100 for the previous and this meeting. | ||
− | * TechSoup ( | + | * TechSoup - provides low-cost Microsoft licenses to Non-Profit organizations |
− | * Microsoft | + | ** NetSquared (part of TechSoup) is an umbrella group for Non-Profit organizations' IT staff |
+ | *** If we get a venue without A/V facilities, can NetSquared sponsorship provide, say, a projector? Marc to ask Eli... | ||
+ | * Microsoft | ||
+ | ** We will gladly accept Microsoft sponsorhip and host an evening dedicated to Microsoft products | ||
+ | *** Perhaps have as a guest speaker a product specialist from Microsoft? | ||
+ | ** We will continue to focus on Free Software / Open Source solutions at other meetings | ||
+ | * Google | ||
+ | ** Apparently Google is a sponsor or a member of NetSquared | ||
+ | *** but we have not seen support from our local Google office, eg. request for a venue | ||
− | === Formalizing the KWNPSA group === | + | ===== Formalizing the KWNPSA group ===== |
* The formal structure of the group will consist only of a Treasurer | * The formal structure of the group will consist only of a Treasurer | ||
− | ** Marc Paré will be Treasurer, will take care of | + | ** Marc Paré will be Treasurer, will take care of any finances received from sponsors, donations, &c. |
** Funds received from sponsorships &c. will be used for venues, hosting costs, domain name costs. | ** Funds received from sponsorships &c. will be used for venues, hosting costs, domain name costs. | ||
− | * Bob Jonkman will ask Eli van Giessen to re-brand the meetup.com group as '''KWNPSA - Kitchener Waterloo Non-Profit System Administrators -- a NetSquared Group''' | + | * Bob Jonkman will ask Eli van Giessen to re-brand the [http://www.meetup.com/NetSquared-Kitchener-Waterloo/ meetup.com group] as '''KWNPSA - Kitchener Waterloo Non-Profit System Administrators -- a NetSquared Group''' |
− | * Marc Paré will | + | |
+ | ===== Marketing KWNPSA ===== | ||
+ | * Business cards? | ||
+ | ** We need someone to design a KWNPSA logo | ||
+ | *** The ''KW'' part is important to our geographic locale; highlight or separate KW from NPSA | ||
+ | ** Marc Paré has found with other organizations that business cards are just as effective as posters | ||
+ | * Let more people know that KWNPSA exists | ||
+ | ** Marc has a list of local KW Non-Profit organizations [https://www.canadahelps.org/en/search/app/?medium=TSA&models=charity.charityprofile&q=Waterloo&gclid=CjwKEAjwkq7GBRDun9iu2JjyhmsSJADHCD_Hp06S32fZF1kA_tKMjaZlcHtSe_D4S_SP8LJUJlrN2RoCeS3w_wcB/ List] he has contacted about 100 | ||
+ | |||
+ | ===== Meeting format ===== | ||
+ | * KWNPSA has a collegial Round Table Discussion format, which suits Non-Profit organizations | ||
+ | ** Contrast this with formal presentations at [http://kwlug.org/ KWLUG] | ||
+ | ** or the social restaurant meetings of [http://kwvoip.ca/ KWVoIP] | ||
+ | |||
+ | ===== Mailing Lists ===== | ||
+ | * How do we deal with badly configured MUAs (Mail clients) that try to reply to the Announcements list? | ||
+ | * Do we need two separate lists? | ||
+ | ** Steve Izma will investigate the use of "child lists" in Mailman | ||
+ | ** "Child lists" will allow "Discussion" to receive "Announcements" so people only have to subscribe to one list | ||
+ | * DMARC problems | ||
+ | ** Steve will activate "munging" on Mailman so badly configured mail hosts like Yahoo Mail will accept messages | ||
+ | * We will have KWNPSA branded e-mail addresses | ||
+ | ** To be seen if this helps or hinders the DMARC problem | ||
+ | ** Lends authority to Announcements; requests for venues, &c. | ||
+ | *** Marc Paré [mailto:marc.pare@kwnpsa.ca marc.pare@kwnpsa.ca] | ||
+ | *** Steve Izma [mailto:sizma@kwnpsa.ca sizma@kwnpsa.ca] | ||
+ | *** Bob Jonkman [mailto:bobjonkman@kwnpsa.ca bobjonkman@kwnpsa.ca] | ||
+ | ** Available to anyone who helps organize the group | ||
+ | |||
+ | ===== Wiki ===== | ||
+ | * Meetup.com is [https://www.meetup.com/boards/thread/32693362 closing its Discussion Forums] where we used to publish Meeting Notes | ||
+ | ** Paul Nijjar has a .gzip file of all meeting notes | ||
+ | ** Bob Jonkman will upload these to the Wiki (they're in the Public Folder as [http://sobac.com/owncloud/s/CQr2YmVw6VZ91We/download?path=/&files=npsa.tar.bz2 npsa.tar.bz2]) | ||
+ | *** Public folder (RO): http://sobac.com/owncloud/s/CQr2YmVw6VZ91We | ||
+ | *** Upload folder (R/W): http://sobac.com/owncloud/s/35Gyy6yTOG5Ak9z (contact [mailto:bobjonkman@kwnpsa.ca Bob Jonkman] for the password) | ||
+ | ** Steve Izma will write a script to convert these from Markdown into Mediawiki syntax and upload them | ||
+ | * Bob has been testing different data structures on the Wiki, eg. transclusions for meeting announcements, sub-folders for meeting notes. | ||
+ | |||
+ | ===== Branding ===== | ||
+ | * Description of group: '''Resource Group for Information Technology in Non-Profit Organizations''' | ||
+ | ** Similar to a Mission Statement, if not identical | ||
+ | ** Also the Vision -- use one phrase for all | ||
+ | ** We will refine this description on the Discussion List with other members | ||
+ | * Are we '''KWNPSA''' or '''KW-NPSA'''? | ||
+ | ** It's a non-issue, we'll spell it out in full on posters and whenever we make announcements | ||
+ | ** Let's see what the Business Card designer does | ||
+ | |||
+ | ===== Venue ===== | ||
+ | * Marc Paré will pursue Communitech and the Downtown Community Centre for "venue sponsorship" | ||
+ | * A venue at Google may not be possible (high security facility) | ||
+ | |||
+ | |||
+ | Meeting notes taken by Bob Jonkman. | ||
+ | |||
+ | [[Category:NPSA]] | ||
+ | [[Category:KWNPSA Meeting Notes]] |
Latest revision as of 19:11, 12 October 2017
Contents
Branding
- Date
- Monday, 13 March 2017
- Event Announcement
- https://www.meetup.com/NetSquared-Kitchener-Waterloo/events/237778855/
- Location
- Steve Izma's house, 35 Locust Street, Kitchener, Ontario Map
What's your brand? Do you have a brand? How do you choose a brand? Is branding important for NonProfit organizations? What is the value of a good brand? What is the cost of a bad brand? Have you ever changed your branding? How much work was it for the SysAdmins? Did you have re-do the Web site? The e-mail addresses? Business cards? Letterhead? What legal considerations are there for choosing a brand?
Bob and Marc have the questions, together all of us have the answers.
See you at the meeting!
--Bob and Marc
Meeting Notes
This meeting ended up being more about our own re-branding needs, and the business of running KWNPSA as a non-profit organization. We'll have another session in the future on Branding to discuss the experience and gather the advice of other organizations.
- We started with a discussion on the different syntaxes used in markup languages, eg. Markdown, Mediawiki, PMWiki, MoinMoin...
Hosting Services
- Many Non-Profit organizations are migrating from CCj/Clearline (Steph Smith, Cedric Puddy) to IndieServe (Mark Steffen)
- Marc Paré will take over the hosting for KWNPSA
- Marc is currently using 123EHost.com
- This is for the interim, until Marc has his own server set up
- The hosting OS will be Mageia
- Mailing Lists
- Steve Izma will be the Mailing List Manager
- We currently have our Discussion and Announcements mailing lists on CCj/Clearline
- Steve will look after the mailing list migrations as soon as Marc has Mailman set up
- Wiki
- Mediawiki is being used by everyone at this meeting,
- Currently being hosted at http://sobac.com/kwnpsa by Bob Jonkman
- Will be migrated after Marc has set up the Mageia server
Sponsorships
- CIRA - Has provided $100 for the previous and this meeting.
- TechSoup - provides low-cost Microsoft licenses to Non-Profit organizations
- NetSquared (part of TechSoup) is an umbrella group for Non-Profit organizations' IT staff
- If we get a venue without A/V facilities, can NetSquared sponsorship provide, say, a projector? Marc to ask Eli...
- NetSquared (part of TechSoup) is an umbrella group for Non-Profit organizations' IT staff
- Microsoft
- We will gladly accept Microsoft sponsorhip and host an evening dedicated to Microsoft products
- Perhaps have as a guest speaker a product specialist from Microsoft?
- We will continue to focus on Free Software / Open Source solutions at other meetings
- We will gladly accept Microsoft sponsorhip and host an evening dedicated to Microsoft products
- Google
- Apparently Google is a sponsor or a member of NetSquared
- but we have not seen support from our local Google office, eg. request for a venue
- Apparently Google is a sponsor or a member of NetSquared
Formalizing the KWNPSA group
- The formal structure of the group will consist only of a Treasurer
- Marc Paré will be Treasurer, will take care of any finances received from sponsors, donations, &c.
- Funds received from sponsorships &c. will be used for venues, hosting costs, domain name costs.
- Bob Jonkman will ask Eli van Giessen to re-brand the meetup.com group as KWNPSA - Kitchener Waterloo Non-Profit System Administrators -- a NetSquared Group
Marketing KWNPSA
- Business cards?
- We need someone to design a KWNPSA logo
- The KW part is important to our geographic locale; highlight or separate KW from NPSA
- Marc Paré has found with other organizations that business cards are just as effective as posters
- We need someone to design a KWNPSA logo
- Let more people know that KWNPSA exists
- Marc has a list of local KW Non-Profit organizations List he has contacted about 100
Meeting format
- KWNPSA has a collegial Round Table Discussion format, which suits Non-Profit organizations
Mailing Lists
- How do we deal with badly configured MUAs (Mail clients) that try to reply to the Announcements list?
- Do we need two separate lists?
- Steve Izma will investigate the use of "child lists" in Mailman
- "Child lists" will allow "Discussion" to receive "Announcements" so people only have to subscribe to one list
- DMARC problems
- Steve will activate "munging" on Mailman so badly configured mail hosts like Yahoo Mail will accept messages
- We will have KWNPSA branded e-mail addresses
- To be seen if this helps or hinders the DMARC problem
- Lends authority to Announcements; requests for venues, &c.
- Marc Paré marc.pare@kwnpsa.ca
- Steve Izma sizma@kwnpsa.ca
- Bob Jonkman bobjonkman@kwnpsa.ca
- Available to anyone who helps organize the group
Wiki
- Meetup.com is closing its Discussion Forums where we used to publish Meeting Notes
- Paul Nijjar has a .gzip file of all meeting notes
- Bob Jonkman will upload these to the Wiki (they're in the Public Folder as npsa.tar.bz2)
- Public folder (RO): http://sobac.com/owncloud/s/CQr2YmVw6VZ91We
- Upload folder (R/W): http://sobac.com/owncloud/s/35Gyy6yTOG5Ak9z (contact Bob Jonkman for the password)
- Steve Izma will write a script to convert these from Markdown into Mediawiki syntax and upload them
- Bob has been testing different data structures on the Wiki, eg. transclusions for meeting announcements, sub-folders for meeting notes.
Branding
- Description of group: Resource Group for Information Technology in Non-Profit Organizations
- Similar to a Mission Statement, if not identical
- Also the Vision -- use one phrase for all
- We will refine this description on the Discussion List with other members
- Are we KWNPSA or KW-NPSA?
- It's a non-issue, we'll spell it out in full on posters and whenever we make announcements
- Let's see what the Business Card designer does
Venue
- Marc Paré will pursue Communitech and the Downtown Community Centre for "venue sponsorship"
- A venue at Google may not be possible (high security facility)
Meeting notes taken by Bob Jonkman.