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* Many Non-Profit organizations are migrating from CCj/Clearline (Steph Smith, Cedric Puddy) to IndieServe (Mark Steffen)
 
* Many Non-Profit organizations are migrating from CCj/Clearline (Steph Smith, Cedric Puddy) to IndieServe (Mark Steffen)
 
* Marc Paré will take over the hosting for KWNPSA
 
* Marc Paré will take over the hosting for KWNPSA
** Marc is currently using Easy
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** Marc is currently using ???????????? (EasyHost123?)
** Mailing Lists
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** This is for the interim, until Marc has his own server set up
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** The hosting OS will be Mageia
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* Mailing Lists
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** Steve Izma will be the Mailing List Manager
 
** We currently have our [http://thinkers.org/mailman/listinfo/npsa_thinkers.org Discussion] and [http://thinkers.org/mailman/listinfo/npsa-ann_thinkers.org Announcements] mailing lists on CCj/Clearline
 
** We currently have our [http://thinkers.org/mailman/listinfo/npsa_thinkers.org Discussion] and [http://thinkers.org/mailman/listinfo/npsa-ann_thinkers.org Announcements] mailing lists on CCj/Clearline
** Wiki
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** Steve will look after the mailing list migrations as soon as Marc has Mailman set up
*** Mediawiki is being used by everyone at this meeting
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* Wiki
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** Mediawiki is being used by everyone at this meeting,
 +
** Currently being hosted at http://sobac.com/kwnpsa by Bob Jonkman
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** Will be migrated after Marc has set up the Mageia server
  
 
=== Sponsorships ===
 
=== Sponsorships ===
 
* CIRA - Has provided $100 for the previous and this meeting.
 
* CIRA - Has provided $100 for the previous and this meeting.
* TechSoup (?) - NetSquared is an umbrella group for Non-Profit organizations' IT staff
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* TechSoup - provides low-cost Microsoft licenses to Non-Profit organizations
* Microsoft
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** NetSquared (part of TechSoup) is an umbrella group for Non-Profit organizations' IT staff
 +
*** If we get a venue without A/V facilities, can NetSquared sponsorship provide, say, a projector? Marc to ask Eli...
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* Microsoft
 +
** We will gladly accept Microsoft sponsorhip and host an evening dedicated to Microsoft products
 +
*** Perhaps have as a guest speaker a product specialist from Microsoft?
 +
** We will continue to focus  on Free Software / Open Source solutions at other meetings
 +
* Google
 +
** Apparently Google is a sponsor or a member of NetSquared
 +
*** but we have not seen support from our local Google office, eg. request for a venue
  
 
=== Formalizing the KWNPSA group ===
 
=== Formalizing the KWNPSA group ===
 
* The formal structure of the group will consist only of a Treasurer
 
* The formal structure of the group will consist only of a Treasurer
** Marc Paré will be Treasurer, will take care of all finances
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** Marc Paré will be Treasurer, will take care of any finances received from sponsors, donations, &c.
 
** Funds received from sponsorships &c. will be used for venues, hosting costs, domain name costs.
 
** Funds received from sponsorships &c. will be used for venues, hosting costs, domain name costs.
* Bob Jonkman will ask Eli van Giessen to re-brand the meetup.com group as '''KWNPSA - Kitchener Waterloo Non-Profit System Administrators -- a NetSquared Group'''
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* Bob Jonkman will ask Eli van Giessen to re-brand the [http://www.meetup.com/NetSquared-Kitchener-Waterloo/ meetup.com group] as '''KWNPSA - Kitchener Waterloo Non-Profit System Administrators -- a NetSquared Group'''
* Marc Paré will look after any finances received from sponsors
+
 
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=== Marketing KWNPSA ===
 +
* Business cards?
 +
** We need someone to design a KWNPSA logo
 +
*** The ''KW'' part is important to our geographic locale; highlight or separate KW from NPSA
 +
** Marc Paré has found with other organizations that business cards are just as effective as posters
 +
* Let more people know that KWNPSA exists
 +
** Marc has a list of local KW Non-Profit organizations (??? LINK ???); he has contacted about 100
 +
 
 +
=== Meeting format ===
 +
* KWNPSA has a collegial Round Table Discussion format, which suits Non-Profit organizations
 +
** Contrast this with formal presentations at [http://kwlug.org/ KWLUG]
 +
** or the social restaurant meetings of [http://kwvoip.ca/ KWVoIP]
 +
 
 +
=== Mailing Lists ===
 +
* How do we deal with badly configured MUAs (Mail clients) that try to reply to the Announcements list?
 +
* Do we need two separate lists?
 +
** Steve Izma will investigate the use of "child lists" in Mailman
 +
** "Child lists" will allow "Discussion" to receive "Announcements" so people only have to subscribe to one list
 +
* DMARC problems
 +
** Steve will activate "munging" on Mailman so badly configured mail hosts like Yahoo Mail will accept messages
 +
* We will have KWNPSA branded e-mail addresses
 +
** To be seen if this helps or hinders the DMARC problem
 +
** Lends authority to Announcements; requests for venues, &c.
 +
*** Marc Paré [mailto:marc.pare@kwnpsa.ca marc.pare@kwnpsa.ca]
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*** Steve Izma [mailto:sizma@kwnpsa.ca sizma@kwnpsa.ca]
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*** Bob Jonkman [mailto:bobjonkman@kwnpsa.ca bobjonkman@kwnpsa.ca]
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** Available to anyone who helps organize the group
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=== Wiki ===
 +
* Meetup.com is [https://www.meetup.com/boards/thread/32693362 closing its Discussion Forums] where we used to publish Meeting Notes
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** Paul Nijjar has a .gzip file of all meeting notes
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** Bob Jonkman will upload these to the Wiki (they're in the Public Folder as [http://sobac.com/owncloud/s/CQr2YmVw6VZ91We/download?path=/&files=npsa.tar.bz2  npsa.tar.bz2])
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*** Public folder (RO): http://sobac.com/owncloud/s/CQr2YmVw6VZ91We
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*** Upload folder (R/W): http://sobac.com/owncloud/s/35Gyy6yTOG5Ak9z (contact [mailto:bobjonkman@kwnpsa.ca Bob Jonkman] for the password)
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** Steve Izma will write a script to convert these from Markdown into Mediawiki syntax and upload them
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* Bob has been testing different data structures on the Wiki, eg. transclusions for meeting announcements, sub-folders for meeting notes.
 +
 
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=== Branding ===
 +
* Description of group: '''Resource Group for Information Technology in Non-Profit Organizations'''
 +
** Similar to a Mission Statement, if not identical
 +
** Also the Vision -- use one phrase for all
 +
** We will refine this description on the Discussion List with other members
 +
* Are we '''KWNPSA''' or '''KW-NPSA'''?
 +
** It's a non-issue, we'll spell it out in full on posters and whenever we make announcements
 +
** Let's see what the Business Card designer does
 +
 
 +
=== Venue ===
 +
* Marc Paré will pursue Communitech and the Downtown Community Centre for "venue sponsorship"
 +
* A venue at Google may not be possible (high security facility)
 +
 
 +
 
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Meeting notes taken by Bob Jonkman.

Revision as of 14:49, 14 March 2017

Branding

Date
Monday, 13 March 2017
Event Announcement
https://www.meetup.com/NetSquared-Kitchener-Waterloo/events/237778855/
Location
Steve Izma's house, 35 Locust Street, Kitchener, Ontario Map

What's your brand? Do you have a brand? How do you choose a brand? Is branding important for NonProfit organizations? What is the value of a good brand? What is the cost of a bad brand? Have you ever changed your branding? How much work was it for the SysAdmins? Did you have re-do the Web site? The e-mail addresses? Business cards? Letterhead? What legal considerations are there for choosing a brand?

Bob and Marc have the questions, together all of us have the answers.

See you at the meeting!

--Bob and Marc


Branding/Meeting Notes

This meeting ended up being more about our own re-branding needs, and the business of running KWNPSA as a non-profit organization. We'll have another session in the future on Branding to discuss the experience and gather the advice of other organizations.

  • We started with a discussion on the different syntaxes used in markup languages, eg. Markdown, Mediawiki, PMWiki, MoinMoin...

Hosting Services

  • Many Non-Profit organizations are migrating from CCj/Clearline (Steph Smith, Cedric Puddy) to IndieServe (Mark Steffen)
  • Marc Paré will take over the hosting for KWNPSA
    • Marc is currently using ???????????? (EasyHost123?)
    • This is for the interim, until Marc has his own server set up
    • The hosting OS will be Mageia
  • Mailing Lists
    • Steve Izma will be the Mailing List Manager
    • We currently have our Discussion and Announcements mailing lists on CCj/Clearline
    • Steve will look after the mailing list migrations as soon as Marc has Mailman set up
  • Wiki
    • Mediawiki is being used by everyone at this meeting,
    • Currently being hosted at http://sobac.com/kwnpsa by Bob Jonkman
    • Will be migrated after Marc has set up the Mageia server

Sponsorships

  • CIRA - Has provided $100 for the previous and this meeting.
  • TechSoup - provides low-cost Microsoft licenses to Non-Profit organizations
    • NetSquared (part of TechSoup) is an umbrella group for Non-Profit organizations' IT staff
      • If we get a venue without A/V facilities, can NetSquared sponsorship provide, say, a projector? Marc to ask Eli...
  • Microsoft
    • We will gladly accept Microsoft sponsorhip and host an evening dedicated to Microsoft products
      • Perhaps have as a guest speaker a product specialist from Microsoft?
    • We will continue to focus on Free Software / Open Source solutions at other meetings
  • Google
    • Apparently Google is a sponsor or a member of NetSquared
      • but we have not seen support from our local Google office, eg. request for a venue

Formalizing the KWNPSA group

  • The formal structure of the group will consist only of a Treasurer
    • Marc Paré will be Treasurer, will take care of any finances received from sponsors, donations, &c.
    • Funds received from sponsorships &c. will be used for venues, hosting costs, domain name costs.
  • Bob Jonkman will ask Eli van Giessen to re-brand the meetup.com group as KWNPSA - Kitchener Waterloo Non-Profit System Administrators -- a NetSquared Group

Marketing KWNPSA

  • Business cards?
    • We need someone to design a KWNPSA logo
      • The KW part is important to our geographic locale; highlight or separate KW from NPSA
    • Marc Paré has found with other organizations that business cards are just as effective as posters
  • Let more people know that KWNPSA exists
    • Marc has a list of local KW Non-Profit organizations (??? LINK ???); he has contacted about 100

Meeting format

  • KWNPSA has a collegial Round Table Discussion format, which suits Non-Profit organizations
    • Contrast this with formal presentations at KWLUG
    • or the social restaurant meetings of KWVoIP

Mailing Lists

  • How do we deal with badly configured MUAs (Mail clients) that try to reply to the Announcements list?
  • Do we need two separate lists?
    • Steve Izma will investigate the use of "child lists" in Mailman
    • "Child lists" will allow "Discussion" to receive "Announcements" so people only have to subscribe to one list
  • DMARC problems
    • Steve will activate "munging" on Mailman so badly configured mail hosts like Yahoo Mail will accept messages
  • We will have KWNPSA branded e-mail addresses

Wiki

Branding

  • Description of group: Resource Group for Information Technology in Non-Profit Organizations
    • Similar to a Mission Statement, if not identical
    • Also the Vision -- use one phrase for all
    • We will refine this description on the Discussion List with other members
  • Are we KWNPSA or KW-NPSA?
    • It's a non-issue, we'll spell it out in full on posters and whenever we make announcements
    • Let's see what the Business Card designer does

Venue

  • Marc Paré will pursue Communitech and the Downtown Community Centre for "venue sponsorship"
  • A venue at Google may not be possible (high security facility)


Meeting notes taken by Bob Jonkman.