All About VoIP/Meeting notes for 2015-08-17

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All About VoIP

Discussion Questions

  • What are you using?
  • What do you like about VoIP? What do you not like?
  • What providers do you use?
  • What works better with PSTN? With VoIP?
  • What are the pros and cons?

Arbitrary Comments

  • What can we do with Teksavvy
  • Vonage vs ITSP? (Unlimitel, VoIP.ms) vs ISP (Teksavvy, Rogers) vs MagicJack
  • MagicJack is an ATA? You need internet
  • You can get a USB dongle as well (don't work under Linux)
  • It is reliable enough for faxing
  • $10 extra per year for a Canadian number
  • $50/year + tax ($70 for the device)
  • Berleine spends $32/year for a US number and service
  • Unlimited minutes
  • Call quality can suffer if the internet is busy
  • Magicjack and Vonage are in the same space
  • VoiP.ms and Unlimitel
  • $1/month for the DID, $1.50 for Emergency 911
  • Unlimited minutes
  • Magicjack and Vonage are in the same space
  • VoIP.ms: $1 + $1.50 for Emergency 911 + 1c/minute per calls
  • You can buy a home package for $3.50 per month
  • You can have subaccounts
  • You can have many calls running simultaneously
  • Fongo
  • Free phone number, free calls, free voicemail, pay to send texts
  • Freephoneline.ca is the same but for desktops
  • How far can you get on a wifi phone?
  • Sometimes quality is an issue
  • SIP phones
  • TWC
  • One PSTN line + voip lines + Norstar systems
  • Use an ATA to convert VoIP.ms to analogue
  • This does not work perfectly all the time (eg long tones)
  • Brendan has tried to switch to all VoIP
  • How do you trunk calls between buildings that use different systems?
  • Idea: just map lines to phones so you can use Norstar handsets
  • How can you receive calls in multiple locations?
    • Voip.ms makes this easy
    • You can use follow-me settings in Asterisk
  • Faxing and virtual faxing
  • Doesn't work so well on VoIP
  • VoIP wants to break up packets, but faxes want a continuous
  • Cheapest SIP phone: Grandstream GXP1400 (similar: GXP1405)
  • Why VoIP?
  • Cost: $40 for a PSTN line. VoIP can be cheaper
  • Can use the same phone number for many calls
  • We trust everything that goes over the internet
  • Very configurable for free
  • Why not VoIP?
  • Depends on power to work. Don't have blackouts!
  • Can't run faxing (reliably), DSL modems
  • Can't use analog modems
  • Can be reliability problems
  • Security concerns
  • Should have quality of service to ensure good performance
  • Need upload bandwidth (16k-64kbps up per call depending on codec)
  • Rollovers can be an issue between POTS and VoIP, depending on provider
  • Costs more in terms of IT time
  • You can do voip via internet addresses
  • Older ADSL lines provide 700kbps up
  • Bell VDSL is broken? Fibernetics does it right?
  • Execulink is a provider that does PSTN rollovers right
  • Can you do anything more with commercial VoIP than with regular Bell?
  • Maybe. It depends on what the provider provides.
  • Hiding callerID : easy
  • Is this obsolete because of cellphones?
  • The numbers are different
  • Not as configurable
  • But your cellphone works in a blackout (modulo batteries)
  • You can't run your own cellphone service (in Canada)
  • Compare to radio, community cable
  • SIP clients for cellphones?
  • SIPSimple?
  • You can register to a local asterisk account
  • Ring groups on VoIP.ms
  • How can you make phones ring in certain locations only?
    • Put a sip client on their phones
    • Put Asterisk
  • What Asterisk systems can be configured by Thursday?
  • PBX in a Flash
  • Elastix
  • Cheap analog phones?

Acronym Fun

  • ATA : Turns VoIP into PSTN lines.
  • VoIP : Voice over internet. The trendy thing.
  • PSTN/POTS : "Real" phone line
  • SIP : VoIP protocol. There are others (eg IAX)
  • FXO : Port that is on the phone. In asterisk, you use a port of this type when you want to integrate a PSTN line.
  • FXS : Provides a dialtone. This can be from the wall, or the ports on an ATA
  • DID : A phone number
  • VoIP registration: What phone will ring when you make a call to the number?
  • Hunt groups: Choose which order phones will ring
  • QoS: Quality of service: prefer sending packets to phones rather than Bittorrents
  • Rollovers: First call a POTS line, then call a VoIP line with a different provider
  • MWI: Message waiting light when you have voicemail