All About VoIP/Meeting notes for 2015-08-17

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The meeting on Monday, 17 August 2015 was All About VoIP.

Discussion Questions

  • What are you using?
  • What do you like about VoIP? What do you not like?
  • What providers do you use?
  • What works better with PSTN? With VoIP?
  • What are the pros and cons?

Arbitrary Comments

  • What can we do with Teksavvy?
  • Vonage vs ITSP? (Unlimitel, VoIP.ms) vs ISP (Teksavvy, Rogers) vs MagicJack
  • MagicJack is an ATA? You need internet
    • You can get a USB dongle as well (don't work under Linux)
    • It is reliable enough for faxing
    • $10 extra per year for a Canadian number
    • $50/year + tax ($70 for the device)
    • Berleine spends $32/year for a US number and service
    • Unlimited minutes
    • Call quality can suffer if the internet is busy
  • Magicjack and Vonage are in the same space
  • VoiP.ms and Unlimitel
    • $1/month for the DID, $1.50 for Emergency 911
    • Unlimited minutes
  • Magicjack and Vonage are in the same space
  • VoIP.ms: $1 + $1.50 for Emergency 911 + 1c/minute per calls
    • You can buy a home package for $3.50 per month
    • You can have subaccounts
    • You can have many calls running simultaneously
  • Fongo
    • Free phone number, free calls, free voicemail, pay to send texts
    • Freephoneline.ca is the same but for desktops
    • How far can you get on a wifi phone?
    • Sometimes quality is an issue
  • SIP phones
  • The Working Centre
    • One PSTN line + voip lines + Norstar systems
    • Use an ATA to convert VoIP.ms to analogue
    • This does not work perfectly all the time (eg long tones)
  • Brendan has tried to switch to all VoIP
    • How do you trunk calls between buildings that use different systems?
    • Idea: just map lines to phones so you can use Norstar handsets
    • How can you receive calls in multiple locations?
      • Voip.ms makes this easy
      • You can use follow-me settings in Asterisk
  • Faxing and virtual faxing
    • Doesn't work so well on VoIP
    • VoIP wants to break up packets, but faxes want a continuous
  • Cheapest SIP phone: Grandstream GXP1400 (similar: GXP1405)
  • Why VoIP?
    • Cost: $40 for a PSTN line. VoIP can be cheaper
    • Can use the same phone number for many calls
    • We trust everything that goes over the internet
    • Very configurable for free
  • Why not VoIP?
    • Depends on power to work. Don't have blackouts!
    • Can't run faxing (reliably), DSL modems
    • Can't use analog modems
    • Can be reliability problems
    • Security concerns
    • Should have quality of service to ensure good performance
    • Need upload bandwidth (16k-64kbps up per call depending on codec)
    • Rollovers can be an issue between POTS and VoIP, depending on provider
    • Costs more in terms of IT time
  • You can do voip via internet addresses
  • Older ADSL lines provide 700kbps up
  • Bell VDSL is broken? Fibernetics does it right?
  • Execulink is a provider that does PSTN rollovers right
  • Can you do anything more with commercial VoIP than with regular Bell?
    • Maybe. It depends on what the provider provides.
  • Hiding callerID : easy
  • Is this obsolete because of cellphones?
    • The numbers are different
    • Not as configurable
    • But your cellphone works in a blackout (modulo batteries)
  • You can't run your own cellphone service (in Canada)
    • Compare to radio, community cable
  • SIP clients for cellphones?
    • SIPSimple?
    • You can register to a local asterisk account
    • Ring groups on VoIP.ms
    • How can you make phones ring in certain locations only?
      • Put a sip client on their phones
      • Put Asterisk
  • What Asterisk systems can be configured by Thursday?
    • PBX in a Flash
    • Elastix
  • Cheap analog phones?

Acronym Fun

  • ADSL : Asymmetric Digital Subsriber Line - High-speed Internet over an analog phone line
  • ATA : Analog Telephone Adapter - Turns VoIP into PSTN lines.
  • DID : Direct Inward Dialing - A phone number
  • FXO : Foreign Exchange Office - Port that is on the phone. In asterisk, you use a port of this type when you want to integrate a PSTN line. Wikipedia:Fxo
  • FXS : Foreign Exchange Service - Provides a dialtone. This can be from the wall, or the ports on an ATA
  • Hunt groups: Choose which order phones will ring
  • ISP : Internet Service Provider
  • ITSP : Internet Telephony Service Provider - The company that provides VoIP service
  • MWI: Message Waiting Indicator - The light that shows when you have voicemail
  • PBX : Private Branch Exchange - the device that routes phone calls
  • PSTN/POTS : Public Switched Telephone Network / Plain Old Telephone Service - A "Real" phone line
  • QoS: Quality of Service - prefer sending packets to phones rather than Bittorrents
  • Rollovers: First call a POTS line, then call a VoIP line with a different provider
  • SIP : Session Initiation Protocol - VoIP protocol. There are others (eg IAX)
  • VDSL : Very High Speed Digital Subscriber Line - ADSL on steroids
  • VoIP : Voice over Internet Protocol - The trendy thing.
  • VoIP registration: What phone will ring when you make a call to the number?