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==== Meeting Notes ====
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==== Introductions ====
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* Testers, programmers, SysAdmins, and some non-scripting user
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===== Programming vs. Scripting =====
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* "Programs" are compiled, "Scripts" are interpreted
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* BUt mostly there's no differences in syntax
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* Brian Kernighan still uses AWK,
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** Touts the advantages of one-liners, which can't be compiled
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** Lecture he gavbe in the UK, "Successful programming language, why are some more successful than others"
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*** Keeps coming back to AWK as a successful language
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* "If you want to compile AWK, just re-write it in C"
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* Use a scripting language  to prototype a concept
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* Non-programmers using scripts to do application installation
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** Useful for installing applications without a GUI to get that app installed to the GUI level
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** eg. Mail-In-A-Box, installed with a script
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===== LUA =====
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* LUA: Access to the Linux encryption keyring subsystem
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** Using GUILE (FSF's SCHEME), not so good for encryption
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** "Python for millennials"
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** Written in ANSI C
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** Very embeddable, no linking,
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* Comiles to a Virtual Machine
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* Two flavours, LUA and LUAJIT (Just-In-Time compiler)
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* Seen in XMPP server, used for real-time application
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* Came from Brazil, unverisity project, released "into the wild"
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* Has facility for OOP, but needs your own OOP tools
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* Has co-routines, program in loops that are interruptable; daisychain them together
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* Functions are first-class entities, so can do functional programming
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* Used in games, htere's a modLUA for APache; handle data in blocks without touching the Apache system
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** Rather than create a web backend, it lets you create the entire web server
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* "Embeddable extension language"
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* There's a bootloader LUA for use before the OS loads in SysLinux
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* Kirk has used LUA and an conversion layer for allowing Apache to work with encryption sysstyem
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* Definitely a good language for testing
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* Bulit into Wireshark for decoding packets
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===== AWK =====
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* Conrad Grebel prof Dave Huron used AWK to create a catalogue of music for Hewlett-Packard
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** "HumDrum Toolkit" may be the app name
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** Trying to analyze music, determine patterns among composer
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** Find out if people would be happy if music was two tones up or down
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** Two minutes of this analysis is equal to a human analysis of years
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** Dave Huron one of the first
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* Raymond cleans the data before processing it with AWK
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** Uses BASH to insert parameters begore printing.
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* Bob used AWK to parse log files
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** Poor programming practices
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** Standardized CSV files
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** https://sobac.com/sobac/groupwise/code2html/
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** https://sobac.com/bin/awk/
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==== List of scripting  languages =====
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* AWK
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* Perl
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* Python
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* BASH
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* PHP
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* JavaScript (ECMAScript)
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* TROFF
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* LUA lua.org, wiki, user groups
  
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Revision as of 19:13, 20 August 2018

Scripting Languages

Date
Monday, 20 August 2018 from 7:00pm to 9:00pm iCal
Meetup Event
https://www.meetup.com/NetSquared-Kitchener-Waterloo/events/253044847/
Location
Room 1301 -- Conrad Grebel University College, 140 Westmount Rd. N., Waterloo, Ontario Map
Event Announcement
Scripting Languages/Announcement 2018-08-20

Do you need to do the same thing again and again? Have you automated those repetitive tasks? What software tools do you use? Keyboard macros? Programmable keyboard macros? A scripting language? Which scripting language? What makes a scripting language different from a programming language? Is a scripting language Turing-complete? Can't you just do everything in PowerShell or Bash?

Let's talk about what can be solved with scripting languages, and what can't. Bring your laptop to give a demonstration of your favourite scripting languages, and maybe we can help solve some of your most annoying repetitive problems.


--Bob Jonkman & Marc Paré


Resources


Introductions

  • Testers, programmers, SysAdmins, and some non-scripting user


Programming vs. Scripting
  • "Programs" are compiled, "Scripts" are interpreted
  • BUt mostly there's no differences in syntax
  • Brian Kernighan still uses AWK,
    • Touts the advantages of one-liners, which can't be compiled
    • Lecture he gavbe in the UK, "Successful programming language, why are some more successful than others"
      • Keeps coming back to AWK as a successful language
  • "If you want to compile AWK, just re-write it in C"
  • Use a scripting language to prototype a concept
  • Non-programmers using scripts to do application installation
    • Useful for installing applications without a GUI to get that app installed to the GUI level
    • eg. Mail-In-A-Box, installed with a script
LUA
  • LUA: Access to the Linux encryption keyring subsystem
    • Using GUILE (FSF's SCHEME), not so good for encryption
    • "Python for millennials"
    • Written in ANSI C
    • Very embeddable, no linking,
  • Comiles to a Virtual Machine
  • Two flavours, LUA and LUAJIT (Just-In-Time compiler)
  • Seen in XMPP server, used for real-time application
  • Came from Brazil, unverisity project, released "into the wild"
  • Has facility for OOP, but needs your own OOP tools
  • Has co-routines, program in loops that are interruptable; daisychain them together
  • Functions are first-class entities, so can do functional programming
  • Used in games, htere's a modLUA for APache; handle data in blocks without touching the Apache system
    • Rather than create a web backend, it lets you create the entire web server
  • "Embeddable extension language"
  • There's a bootloader LUA for use before the OS loads in SysLinux
  • Kirk has used LUA and an conversion layer for allowing Apache to work with encryption sysstyem
  • Definitely a good language for testing
  • Bulit into Wireshark for decoding packets



AWK
  • Conrad Grebel prof Dave Huron used AWK to create a catalogue of music for Hewlett-Packard
    • "HumDrum Toolkit" may be the app name
    • Trying to analyze music, determine patterns among composer
    • Find out if people would be happy if music was two tones up or down
    • Two minutes of this analysis is equal to a human analysis of years
    • Dave Huron one of the first


  • Raymond cleans the data before processing it with AWK
    • Uses BASH to insert parameters begore printing.





List of scripting languages =

  • AWK
  • Perl
  • Python
  • BASH
  • PHP
  • JavaScript (ECMAScript)
  • TROFF
  • LUA lua.org, wiki, user groups


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